Jason ([info]mythworker) wrote,
@ 2008-02-10 15:43:00
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Thoughts on Pagan Media
You know, if and when I ever get to an event like Pantheacon (or some convention of similar size), I would really love to do a panel discussion on the Pagan media. Get some magazine publishers, web-editors of larger Pagan sites, and some of the more prominent bloggers and podcasters together and really hash things out.

I say this, because many of the issues I have with the Pagan media (barring some notable exceptions), the issues that prompted me to start doing The Wild Hunt, are basically the same now as they were five years ago.

1. A definite lack of "hard news".

2. Seemingly low editorial standards.

3. Constant re-hashing of the same ten or so theological issues that have been re-hashed over and over again since the 1970s.

4. An abundance of columnists that focus on arts and crafts/spellwork instead of on issues or theological points of view.

5. An overly "Wicca-centric" point of view that often offends and alienates the larger modern Pagan movement.

6. A vast over-reliance on the publishing schedule of the two or three major metaphysical book publishers for feature stories.

7. Interviews that never seem to challenge the subject on anything, or prompt a deeper exploration of their views/opinions.

8. Almost zero web-savvy.

9. Review sections that are little better than Amazon pages (and often worse).

10. Almost no investigative journalism or follow-up on important stories.

Those are simply the first ten issues that came to mind. But I think it is imperative that we start having that serious discussion.



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[info]elfwreck
2008-02-11 02:42 am UTC (link)
I would like to know what you consider the "notable exceptions" are. (I suppose I'd also like to know what you mean by "the Pagan media;" I can name a couple of magazines, but that's about it.)

The ten points you mention are spot-on. I've looked over the Pagan magazines I'm familiar with, and I see maybe a single article I'm interested in about ever three or four issues. My husband sees less than that.

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[info]mythworker
2008-02-11 04:28 am UTC (link)
I'd also like to know what you mean by "the Pagan media;"

Good question! In this case I mean it in a pretty broad sense. Magazines, journals, newspapers, blogs, podcasts, and other media that aim to communicate with the larger "Pagan world" (to varying degrees of success).

"I would like to know what you consider the "notable exceptions" are."

I think there are some blogs, podcasts, and smaller publications that are doing some admirable things. Perhaps I'll do a separate post where I go into who I think is doing it "right" (or at least doing certain elements "right").

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[info]sunfell
2008-02-11 02:58 am UTC (link)
I'd rather be a journalist that happens to be a Pagan than a Pagan Journalist. Expands the horizons.

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[info]elfwreck
2008-02-11 03:52 am UTC (link)
I'd still like to see some good Pagan media sources that had the same journalistic standards as Time or Newsweek. Or other magazines--Quiet Flyer, Fine Woodworking, Women's Day... something that would still have fascinating articles (to its target audience) every month after collecting two years' of issues, something that reported news/media/political events relevant to the community to a standard that's the same as mainstream media, just directed at a specific audience.

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[info]mythworker
2008-02-11 04:30 am UTC (link)
"I'd still like to see some good Pagan media sources that had the same journalistic standards as Time or Newsweek."

Amen.

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[info]sunfell
2008-02-11 04:09 am UTC (link)
Lets start having that discussion. If we want it, we have to create it- otherwise, it won't happen.

It'll be a lot of hard work, and there will be people who will come swanning in and demand to 'lead' it, and others who will hate the very concept, and will strive to monkeywrench it.

And there will be others, who, time permitting, will actually contribute to both the conversation and the output. Those are the valuable ones. Cultivate them where you find them- they are rare jewels.

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[info]chalkhorse
2008-02-11 04:39 am UTC (link)
Mediocrity dominates so many aspects of the forms of expression in the pagan community: music, arts, writing, etc. Why should journalism and PR be any different? But, as you point out, there are notable exceptions to this. The trick is trying to shift the balance so that excellence is more dominant than mediocrity. The bigger the pagan community gets, the greater likelihood of mediocrity. Sadly, the more likely someone is to want to draw attention to themselves and their mode of expression, the more likely it is their offerings are mediocre.

Funnily enough, a very similar situation exists at pagan gatherings with regard to merchants these days. The folks with the money to have a gigantic display area and lots of product tend to be purveyors of cheap, mass-produced crap. Meanwhile the artisan who handcrafts something unique is pushed to the margins and the less-visible exhibit sites, and people who don't care about quality buy the cheaper, inferior mass-produced crap, which further marginalizes the artisan.

In other words, maybe there is so much sub-standard pagan journalism because so many people seek it out so readily, and pay attention to it despite its inferiority. I for one am grateful for your blog, Jason.


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[info]borea
2008-02-11 02:17 pm UTC (link)
I know I would pick up subscriptions to more pagan magazines/journals if what's being discussed here were to happen. I want to support real discussion of issues that are relevant to modern pagans, not articles that tell one how to "Turn Your Boyfriend into a Toad!" Pagan issues in politics...very few blogs even touch on these issues, let alone go in depth. It really is a shame.

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[info]phae_talon
2008-02-11 08:07 pm UTC (link)
I think that is a great idea. I would love to see a Pagan magazine that wasn't just a bunch of spells and advertisements. I don't mind Wicca/Witch centric publications because that is what I am interested in. Though, I wouldn't be adverse to seeing more from the greater Pagan community as well.

It has always been a bit of a dream of mine to get some sort of 'Lifestyle' magazine together that was based on Pagan/Witch lives rather than the same old mainstream stuff.

Something similar to 'Wish' magazine that has home decorating, fashion, cooking, health, etc. Just make it more Pagan centric with articles that are of interest to Pagans as well.

Though, one thing that I have noticed a lot of Pagan magazines (especially online) suffer from is a distinct lack of a visual aspect. There are limited or no photos or art.

That is just me, though. I am not all that interested in politics or finances. Mainly because whenever Pagans have discussions on these topics, it is always USA-centric. I don't live in the states, and their politics don't apply to me (I also get a little sick of having my ideas shot down because they aren't Capitalist enough).

Point being that I think that a lot of the time, politics and finances are not something that is dependant on religion (or it shouldn't be).

Ok, I am done rambling now ;)

--Phae

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[info]herbmcsidhe
2008-02-11 08:28 pm UTC (link)
Jason, those are pretty much the reasons I no longer subscribe to any pagan publication.

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[info]sifractusfortis
2008-02-11 09:38 pm UTC (link)
Jason:

I have to concur with you. I had hopes for nW when I helped start it, but... I'm not so impressed anymore, and towards the end I felt pretty stifled anyway.

So what's the answer?

Dag

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